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I am told that the truths that I share sometimes come across a bit too curt. Not that the truths shouldn’t be firmly held, but when I share them verbally my tone and expression and responses to the listener allow me to share the truth and the balance of grace at the same time (please listen to some of my audios for examples).

Whatever today’s topic, the full balance always involves the the following sweet coatings on the sometimes distasteful pill of truth of:

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

1. You are not alone, Dr. Verle Bell joins you as the chief of sinners and in no position to judge your worth, dignity, security, future, or God’s ability to help you.

2. There is Hope!

3. If you are a saved child of God, you have worth, strength, and hope just because. You can’t lose it or increase it, you have them just because Jesus died for you and loves you.

4. There are no have to‘s for us but there are a lot of sure-would-be-nice‘s. These blogs are to help you grab ahold of all the sure-would-be-nice’s God has for you in the present.

5. If you never change, grow, fight the good fight, etc, You are still a winner, for we are more than conquerors- we forever remain in his love!

Stop to think, how many people have passed through this world without confessing with God that they are a sinner in need of salvation, asking for that salvation based on the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Since we have, as a result we are now immortals. The rest is just icing on the cake.

Now read on to get your share of the icing!

If you ask Him nicely, He might even let you lick out of the icing bowl, just as my Mom did when I helped her in the kitchen as a boy.

BE WEIRD!

1 Peter 4:4King James Version (KJV)4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

There are only two kinds of people on this planet. The ones who think we are strange because we do not wallow in sin and those who think they are strange because they do wallow in sin. Sure there are christians who do not live in such a way that the world does not think that they are strange. Don’t you think that is strange? Let your light shine in such a way that the watching world will think “Wow! there must be a God because people just don’t act like that! God’s ways and thoughts are not our thoughts so if we begin to act in them we have to seem strange to the world. Given all the power and wisdom and just plain weirdness of God shouldn’t we seem weird too. Weirdly, being peaceful and passionate, caring and calm, striving and resting, hating sin and never having anger out of control, in the world but not having it in us, in the battle and delighting in the sure victory, Weird!

“Vex not thy spirit at the course of things, They heed not thy vexation. How ludicrous and outlandish is astonishment At anything that may happen in life.” I ran across this interesting text from Marcus Aurelius, it reminded me of a thought I have often shared. “The greatest of all insanities is to expect sanity in this crazy world.”

Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
That’s a command! Quit thinking this crazy world is some sort of exception and that life is meant to be logical. Only when godliness has an influence do we find glimpses of sanity this side of heaven.
That’s a command! Rejoice and revel in partaking in the effects of sin and fighting with it by the power of God until He returns and sanity finally wins out.
Be weird and find the insanity of this world to be exactly what one would expect in a sin plagued planet. Remain calm, the Lord is in control. Don’t water down the insanity in order to feel hope, but rather look at it in all it’s awesome craziness and use it at a measure of  how much bigger is God’s wisdom and Grace.

THAT’S, EASY TO SAY, BUT IT’S JUST TOO HARD!

Have you ever used ideas such as , I can’t, I’m trying but, it’s too difficult, maybe later?

Like most things in this life of faith, the way out of the pit is to dig deeper.  For example, are you just too big a sinner to change-remember that you are probably the worst ever-so what?

You think that there are few things that you can handle on your own? There are none! You have trouble finding the right words? God made your mouth and the Holy Spirit will translate your prayers into Godspeak and give you the right words to speak before the judges of this world. You have trouble with thinking clearly, ask God for wisdom and He will give you abundantly pressed down shaken together and running over His own thoughts. For His thoughts are not even the thoughts of the brightest and best thinkers of this world.

Without Him you can do NOTHING, but with Him you can do all things that He asks you to do!

The next time you think hard difficult too much I can’t–replace these thoughts with the proper Christian self view of IMPOSSIBLE, then run to the Holy Spirit for what you need to obey, pointing out that He will have to do it but that He may borrow your body members to work through. After all, it should be no longer you who lives but Christ living in you. Too hard? Not for the ONE who lives in and possesses you.

By the way, I grew up in India and observed individual who were possessed by evil spirits. So even letting the Holy Spirit fully possess me was scary. Would I lose all? NO!

So what’s the difference between Spirit possessed dead people, such as I, and demon possessed people?:

1.We never have our will overrun but He waits for us to turn our will over to Him moment by moment.                  They have lost all personality. They have no will left.

2.We seek to bring life to all those around us.                                                                                                                          They seek only to kill and devour.

3.We hate sin and love people.                                                                                                                                                      They hate people and love evil.

4.We delight in beauty and revel in life.                                                                                                                                     They destroy the beautiful and feel trapped in life.

5.We discover the beauty of our God designed identity, His masterpiece which perfectly matches the tasks He has prepared for Himself to do through our yielded body members.                                                                                                                                                                                             They have no individual personality left and are fit for no useful task.

6.etc.

There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
   Sometimes it seems that our tasks and temptations are above what we are able. This verse sounds nice but seems impractical. Like Asaph in psalms 73 we complain that God’s ways might work for some but in our case they don’t. My understanding of the promise in this verse is that it is true only if our goal and attitude is godly. When you want “a way of escape” does your mind picture and desire to escape from THE TRIAL? Or is your concern that, in the midst of the trial, you might sin? If your focus is to be rid of the trial, then this verse is useless to you. If your focus is, to not sin and not have your relationship with God damaged, then rest rest rest on this promise. I have often found that when God helps me have the right attitude. then He often removes the trial also and if not He gives more grace. Then, because of my attitude, this grace is sufficient to continue in the trial safely.     2 Corinthians 12:9

And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me

Is any thing too hard for the Lord?

Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation

And Jonathan Saul’s son arose, and went to David into the wood, and strengthened his hand in God.

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LONELY? THAT’S OK

Hymn by John W Peterson

1 No one understands like Jesus,
He’s a friend beyond compare;
Meet Him at the throne of mercy,
He is waiting for you there.No one understands like Jesus,
When the days are dark and grim;
No one is so near, so dear as Jesus,
Cast your every care on Him. No one understands like Jesus,
Every woe He sees and feels;
Tenderly He whispers comfort,
And the broken heart He heals No one understands like Jesus,
When the foes of life assail;
You should never be discouraged,
Jesus cares and will not fail. No one understands like Jesus,
When you falter on the way;
Tho’ you fail Him, sadly fail Him
He will pardon you today.There’s not a Friend like the lowly Jesus:
No, not one! no, not one!
None else could heal all our souls’ diseases:
No, not one! no, not one!

God loves you so much that He wants you to spend all eternity enjoying the greatest possible bliss. The greatest possible bliss would have to come from fulfilling of the greatest possible need. What greater need could there be than a need for Him?

Here on earth we find pseudobliss in the “pleasures of sin” but they cannot be maintained, are intense but not solid, are “for a season” and the end is death. Perhaps the most intense pleasure would be measured by the level of the number one addictive substance Dopamine. This is released naturally in response to responsible behavior and enjoyment of God approved experiences at levels up to 200. inappropriate behaviors such as sex outside of marriage or ingesting crystal methamphetamine  can shoot this up to over 1000! Of course this depleted your dopamine supply and burns out the dopamine receptors to where we no longer feel pleasure and crash into despair. WE ARE NOT INTENDED TO GET HIGH ON LIFE. We are intended to have a taste of the solid, life-giving, everlasting bliss-to-come when we see Christ and our inner emptiness is filled with the Lord.

Till then, earthly pleasures even our joy in Him, are but a shadow and encouragement to hope of that future bliss.

Even the most perfect earthly pleasure can not fill the void created in you that has a “God shape” to it and can only be filled by Him. So enjoy and savor all the gently solid real satisfying experiences and relationships that are God ordained in this life but do not mind the sweet emptiness that prepares us to revel in the Lord when we see Him face to face. Never, never try to eliminate all that emptiness or you will have to appeal to unnatural soul destroying temporary pleasures.

Blaise Pascal“There is a God shaped vacuum in the heart of every man which cannot be filled by any created thing, but only by God, the Creator, made known through Jesus.”

Thank God for the loneliness that holds the promise of so great a fulfillment. Revel in the relationships that God has allowed you do have here on earth, but don’t suck them dry by expecting things from them that they CAN NOT provide and are not intended to.  Even if it seems that all else and all others have abandoned you, you have a chance to practice this great love, that “Having you Lord I need nothing and no one else” and then giving freely to the people in our lives even though we know they will not be the source of our worth dignity and fulfillment, but He will!
Hymn by Johnson Oatman

Jesus knows all about my struggles;
He will guide ’til the day is done:
There’s not a Friend like the lowly Jesus:
No, not one! no, not one!

No friend like Him is so high and holy, No, not one! no, not one!
And yet no friend is so meek and lowly, No, not one! no, not one!

There’s not an hour that He is not near me,
No night so dark, but His love can cheer me,No, not one! no, not one!,
Did ever saint find this Friend forsake him? No, not one! no, not one!
Or sinner find that He would not take him? No, not one! no, not one!

 

BRIDE OF CHRIST

What is the proper focus for a christian?
Some churches emphasize the Bible, studying it preaching it memorizing it, others emphasize singing and praise, others urge to go witnessing, others encourage a life of holiness, others the need to rest in grace. I think that all these and other things of value are wrapped up in being a good wife to my eternal lover. I’ve been re-reading HindsFeet on High Places – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and my Shepherd bridegroom has been using the allegory to call me into a walk of greater love with Him.
I always seem to berelearning basic love 101.

“Verle, (Put your own name in) I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.–   “Thank you lord, I appreciate you noticing and being pleased with all that!”

4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because THOU HAST LEFT THY FIRST LOVE.–  “OUCH!”

I always had trouble with my children getting them to realize that the purpose of doing a task or experiencing an outing together was not about the task or the outing. It  was about sharing and building memories and getting to know each other better.

If I came home and my wife were to keep a perfect house and cook perfect food and care for the children perfectly and do perfect handicrafts etc etc. but didn’t like to hang out with me and enjoy being with me, ALL THE REST WOULD NOT COUNT. In the love chapter of 1 corinthians 13 I usually interpreted agape love to mean that,by God’s grace, I was to love other people like that: but it also means that all those achievements would mean nothing  if I have not agape for my immortal bridegroom.

Perhaps the most important book in the Bible is the SONG OF SONGS after all.

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

As any healthy groom, my groom is jealous. Do you remember the difference between envy and jealousy? He will fight for our relationship against anything that would get in the way– even all the labour and patience and fighting for the right etc.  “Lord and lover, thank you for knowing me and still loving me and wanting to be in me and live through me and share with me in all my thoughts and events. Help me to overcome my fears of intimacy and learn to be real with you, and thank you for your persistence and never quit drawing me to a deeper love even beyond the first love we shared at the start.

THE HOUND OF HEAVEN
Francis Thompson

VERLE:For, though I knew His love Who followed,
Yet was I sore adread
Lest, having Him, I must have naught beside.
(Fear wist not to evade, as Love wist to pursue.)
Across the margent of the world I fled,
And troubled I said to Dawn: heap me over from this tremendous Lover—

JESUS:Whom wilt thou find to love ignoble thee, Save Me, save only Me?
All which I took from thee I did but take,
Not for thy harms,
But just that thou might’st seek it in My arms.
All which thy child’s mistake fancies as lost, I have stored for thee at home:
Rise, clasp My hand, and come!”Ah, fondest, blindest, weakest,
I am He Whom thou seekest!
Thou dravest love from thee, who dravest Me.’

WHAT WAS ADAM’S “APPLE”?

Sorry for not blogging for a while, I’ve been overwhelmed and need to sort out priorities… and this is definitely a top priority. I even thought of setting the alarm to get up earlier and blog, but I’m always telling others that God gives his beloved sleep- Psalms 127- so pray for me to figure out the balance.

This is a tough blog post. I did not like what the Holy Spirit had to say to me as I wrote it, so if you are not wanting all of God and all of his blessing and a real relationship with Him, then please don’t read any further.

What do I mean by Adam’s apple?

We all have our “apples”, things in our life that we cling to in order to establish who is the real boss of our life. We know Eve’s apple was that she wanted to “be like god” and decide for herself what was right and wrong and not have to consult God or, horrors, her husband.

But our goose wasn’t cooked until Adam also ate from the tree. If he had refused, God could have used him as a perfect man to redeem his wife and this earth.

So why did he eat? Did he also resent not being the judge of what was right and wrong? Well, he must have or he would have waited till evening and asked God whether it was OK or not to do what his wife asked. I think his “apple” was worrying what his wife would feel and think if he said, “No I won’t just follow your lead, I’m going to find out from God if you have done wrong or if I may join with you.”

What’s your “apple?”

Our daughters decided that if they had to wear dresses that this was such an evil thing it justified plotting our deaths by burning down the house, (Thank God they never figured out how). Justified finding boyfriends on the side, and stealing our car leaving the family abandoned far away from home so they could run off with the boyfriend> Justified taking and taking and taking our help and finances and time without a scrap of gratitude> Justified a life of excitement seeking, etc. etc. All because we were so evil as to ask them to dress modestly.

My wife gave them a tool by which to fight the ancient curse of the “Adam’s apple”. She said,

“ask the following question, “Is my authority asking me to do something that is wrong?” If so, refer to the appeal that Daniel used. If not, then as an act of worship to the God that has placed that authority in your life, go ahead and co-operate with enthusiasm.”

I struggle with the co-dependant  “apple” of being willing to do anything for God except setting limits on others that would make them mad at me.

What’s your “Lord I’ll do anything but that, I’ll go anywhere except” apple? We all have bad genes from Adam and Eve and want to see ourselves as basically wanting to follow God,  EXCEPT IN THIS ONE LITTLE THING.

The opposite is not you running around and trying to be strong enough to let go of or face the “apple”. It is saying , “I can’t. You can. So here goes!” and moving my body parts, scared out of my wits, to obey.

It is good to remember that BOTH God and the devil want to bring about the “apple” in your life. God wants it because He wants to be God and if ANYTHING is bigger than He is then that is your god. The devil wants it because you have promises to mess up if he brings it about.

It might not be that big a deal until you turn it into an “apple”. But then it becomes the only deal!

I know someone who refused to go to the front of the church to ask God to forgive him of his sins and to accept the finished work of Jesus as full payment. He wanted to be saved but pointed out that one may be saved in the woods, at home, in the car, etc. That was true before he said, I’ll get saved anywhere else. God will wait for him at the altar in front of the church till he lets go of the apple.

There is no use trying to do so many things for God that he will look the other way in this one little area.

With the rich young ruler, it was his possessions, with Demas it was the love of the world, with Annanias and Saphira it was wanting to look as committed as the rest without being as committed as they were. Other “apples” are pain, reputation, jobs, ridicule, relationships, excitement, substances, education, family, hobbies, sports, entertainment, internet. You get the idea.

We call Him LORD because it sounds nice, but He isn’t lord of anything till He is lord of everything.

“DEAR LORD PLEASE SHOW ME MY “APPLES” AND HELP ME TEAR DOWN ALL THE FALSE GODS OF MY LIFE AND LET YOU BE MY KING.

 

PIE IN THE SKY BY AND BY?

Thank you, thank you, thank you, dear blog reader for giving me a comment to respond to!

I love to hear what goes on in your hearts and minds when you read my thoughts. How else can I stay on track and make a reasonable stab at showing the practical wisdom of God so that we may all worship him for his love and wisdom?

COMMENT:”Right now the future is too overwhelming to consider.  I have, of course, the perfect hope of heaven, but I don’t want to focus on that because it gives me complete peace in dying and I currently need peace in living. I will pray for God to reveal something in my future life here on earth for me to be encouraged by, and to hope on.”

It is hard for distant hopes to motivate us to live well in this present moment. If you tell a child that if they give up current fun they will be glad that they did so in 20 years because they will have a better education, be more physically healthy etc. they would have a hard time finding that motivating. We are all but little children having spent so little time in existence that rewards that are for some 60 years away (for my dad perhaps 10 at most and for me 30 or so) seem so far away. Of course in a billion years, our entire 100 years of struggle will seem minuscule, and one second after we see Christ our entire 100 years of struggle will seem irrelevant. I remember an old saying in the church when I was a lad,” Don’t be so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good!” I am suggesting that we be so heavenly minded that we are of great earthly good in the present. We are already immortal, these are the foreign wars that we will recount when we get to the VFW in heaven,there is much good that we may do because this is a pain filled world full of the results of sin THAT WE CAN’T DO IN HEAVEN such as comfort others and lead people to Christ and stand up against mockers for the name of Christ etc. And don’t forget having and helping to raise babies. Ask God to help you prioritize valuing NOW the awesome wonder of Jesus in me the hope of glory. As president Kennedy said,”And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.” When our delight is in the Lord,He gives us the desire of our hearts-Him! Unfortunately nothing else is guaranteed and all things work together for good to those who die in war, starve to death, are sawn apart, killed with swords and counted as sheep for the slaughter all day long BECAUSE: in all these things we are more than conquerors and remain in His love.

Romans 8:17-19King James Version (KJV) 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

(Hymn by: Esther K. Rusthoi)
 Oft times the day seems long, our trials hard to bear,
We’re tempted to complain, to murmur and despair;
But Christ will soon appear to catch His Bride away,
All tears forever over in God’s eternal day.
Sometimes the sky looks dark with not a ray of light,
We’re tossed and driven on , no human help in sight;
But there is one in heav’n who knows our deepest care,
Let Jesus solve your problem – just go to Him in pray’r.
 Life’s day will soon be o’er, all storms forever past,
We’ll cross the great divide, to glory, safe at last;
We’ll share the joys of heav’n – a harp, a home, a crown,
The tempter will be banished, we’ll lay our burden down.

It will be worth it all when we see Jesus,Life’s trials will seem so small when we see Christ;

One glimpse of His dear face all sorrow will erase,So bravely run the race till we see Christ.
THEN IS ABOUT NOW! NOW IS ABOUT THEN! It is both, we are to picture the THEN in order to better live NOW and to see all the treasures that God has for me NOW.
(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold,NOW NOW NOW is the accepted time; behold,NOW is the day of salvation.)

Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth (IN THE PRESENT) unto those things which (GOD STILL HAS STORED UP FOR ME IN THIS PRESENT LIFE) 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded:

Re-read my blog on HOPE and you will see that we are rewarded in the present. Perhaps not with the rewards we would like but with the ones we need:

NOW bringing glory to God , NOW being able to talk to Him and be heard, NOW finding the calling and purpose He has for me, NOW magnifying his name in heaven and earth, NOW helping others.

We want the old covenenant in which God showed his presence through giving his people victory in battle, health, wealth and comfort. The New covenenant is far better but less immediate comfort. He dwells in us and gives us inner peace even if we loose the outer battle, he teaches us to be content with much or little, to accept ourselves and others and him even when we can’t change important people.Prayer
(written by an anonymous confederate soldier, US civil war)

U.S. civil war

I asked God for strength, that I might achieve,I was made weak, that I might learn humbly to obey….I asked for health, that I might do greater things,I was given infirmity, that I might do better things….I asked for riches, that I might be happy,I was given poverty, that I might be wise….I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men,I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God….I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life,I was given life, that I might enjoy all things….I got nothing that I asked for -but everything that I had hoped for,Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.I am among all men most richly blessed.,

 

BE A PECULIAR PRIEST

Dear ones. Do you struggle with fear and anxiety? Remember Philippians 3. (Dr. Bell’s version) When you find yourself anxious, choose to praise God for who He is then beg him for help thanking him for both the problem and for what He is going to do; then take out you emergency kit and review all the positives God has placed in your life and world; then do the little that you can leaving the results to God and focusing on the needs of the others in the situation and PRAYING FOR THEIR NEEDS.
THEN the of God which makes no sense will push out the fear of man and the fear of life that makes no sense!!
We need to stand between the sinner and the God they have sinned against, and, like Moses, cry out to God to pardon them,like Jesus, Father forgive, remembering that NO sin is against us but against God. Psalms 51.
We need to intercede with God when we see others tired and to seek their rest.
We need to ponder as to who people are and how we can encourage them to grow.
When a brother is overtaken in a snare, we need to seek to restore such a one.

In short, we need to take our roles as priests and be so peculiar that the world watching us concludes that there MUST BE A GOD!

Remember to appeal to and plead with God on the basis of how his reputation will be clarified and upheld by his working in the lives of our brethren and enemies in his own marvelous way. Also, that our coming before his throne to plead for other is not because we are so great ourselves but that, since He has been merciful to me the chief of sinners we presumed to believe that He might be merciful to the runner up. If this approach to life doesn’t make you peculiar-nothing will.

TRY IT! See if focusing on asking God to bless others, especially the others involved in the situation that you happen to be worrying about, doesn’t bring you the unexplainable peace of God.

DANIEL 9 18 for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies.

19 O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.

20 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing MY sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the Lord my God for the holy mountain of my God;

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;

¶ Then Naomi, her mother-in-law, said unto her, My daughter, shall I not seek rest for thee that it may be well with thee?

Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:NUMBERS 14:11 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them?

12 I will smite them with the pestilence, and disinherit them, and will make of thee a greater nation and mightier than they.

13 And Moses said unto the Lord, Then the Egyptians shall hear it, (for thou broughtest up this people in thy might from among them;)

14 And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou Lord art among this people, that thou Lord art seen face to face, and that thy cloud standeth over them, and that thou goest before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night.

15 Now if thou shalt kill all this people as one man, then the nations which have heard the fame of thee will speak, saying,

16 Because the Lord was not able to bring this people into the land which he sware unto them, therefore he hath slain them in the wilderness.

17 And now, I beseech thee, let the power of my lord be great, according as thou hast spoken, saying,

18 The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

19 Pardon, I beseech thee, the iniquity of this people according unto the greatness of thy mercy, and as thou hast forgiven this people, from Egypt even until now.

20 And the Lord said, I have pardoned according to thy word: